Curse

Zahr Dalsk · Apr 23, 2009, 04:20 AM // 04:20

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Originally Posted by Qing Guang

The problem is that at least 60% of the sin population (mostly in PvE) isn't interested in acting like a sin, they're interested in running around looking like Naruto and trying to tank.

In fairness, the name "Assassin" is a misnomer for the class anyways.

Assassin done right? Dark Messiah Multiplayer's Assassin. AoC Assassin. Garrett of the Thief series. Even TF2's Spy.

LicensedLuny · Apr 23, 2009, 04:26 AM // 04:26

Not everyone pays attention to other characters in towns. I've had all sorts of conversations with folks in towns without ever having any idea where they were standing, much less what profession they were.

Was what you said upon your return the sort of thing that could be taken a few different ways, especially when coming from a name that hadn't been involved in the latest conversation? Sarcasm is a lot harder to convey in text.

Are you sure all the people you were talking to saw that you were a Necro rather than just the name they saw in Local chat? Are you sure all the people calling you names upon your return as a Warrior were indeed the same people and that they saw you were a Warrior? Maybe the group you'd been chatting with started to disperse once you left, so when you got back there was a new mix of folks chatting in Local.

Sorry, but from your story, there are way too many variables to say even that it's likely the shift was due to your profession.

To answer the general question though, no I don't think there's an overwhelming bias against any class. Then again, I have almost never PuG'ed in all my years of playing. On rare occasions, I've joined up with someone because of their writing in Local chat. On many occasions, I've avoided people because of their writing in Local chat. But as others have mentioned, that's based on what they say rather than any particular profession.

Eragon Zarroc · Apr 23, 2009, 05:12 AM // 05:12

why do u care what random people think

pumpkin pie · Apr 23, 2009, 05:35 AM // 05:35

because its the human thing to do.

Chocobo1 · Apr 23, 2009, 06:36 AM // 06:36

Yeah, if people in Guild Wars think you are female everything you say is important and hilarious. As soon as you appear to be a male your privledges are taken away.

Gill Halendt · Apr 23, 2009, 06:42 AM // 06:42

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Originally Posted by Robbeh The Mad

I was hanging out in Shing Jea...

This.

Shing Jea Monastery is the home of "cool kids", what did you expect?

cataphract · Apr 23, 2009, 06:44 AM // 06:44

I have never experienced this kind of bias.

Then again, all my chars are female and don't walk around in ugly armors. You'll never see my monk dressed in black obsi sporting chaos gloves and ninja mask. Same goes for my ele. My warrior wouldn't be seen dead in primeval+glads+chicken armor combo.

Most importantly, I do not engage in local chat discussions in American districts.

Chocobo1 · Apr 23, 2009, 06:49 AM // 06:49

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Originally Posted by cataphract

I have never experienced this kind of bias.

Then again, all my chars are female and don't walk around in ugly armors. You'll never see my monk dressed in black obsi sporting chaos gloves and ninja mask. Same goes for my ele. My warrior wouldn't be seen dead in primeval+glads+chicken armor combo.

Most importantly, I do not engage in local chat discussions in American districts.

You'd never even know if you experienced this kind of bias if you have all female characters. GW population is desperate tbh.

Lux Aeterna · Apr 23, 2009, 08:13 AM // 08:13

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Originally Posted by Qing Guang

I have to admit, I see a male war and go "uck", but that's mostly a looks thing really (same goes for male monks, male NF necros, etc); I don't have much against them.

Most of the classes esp. with female characters are easy mode for customization.

Male warrior isn't like female ele, you can't just use blue dyed istani... it's gotta be endgame items from multiple campaigns, dyed black / white / red etcetera, or else you're not only bad but obviously bad.

Basically if you put in absolutely no effort, you'll come out with a decent looking female character and a bad looking male character.

Also: I used to play a chick, and it's interesting because people definitely relate to you differently. It was nice at the time, but now that I play a sexy brightly colored male character I'd never ever go back.

+ side of playing a chick at one time is now I can usually tell someone's real gender.

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Originally Posted by Chocobo1

Yeah, if people in Guild Wars think you are female everything you say is important and hilarious. As soon as you appear to be a male your privledges are taken away.

Absolutely not. Customize your character better, spend 100k on armor dye it red, then say something clever...

gremlin · Apr 23, 2009, 08:17 AM // 08:17

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Originally Posted by Gill Halendt

This.

Shing Jea Monastery is the home of "cool kids", what did you expect?

Iv'e seen the crowd that hang around in Shing Jea and if those are the "Cool Kids" then the term cool kids is an oxymoron

RupDur78 · Apr 23, 2009, 08:28 AM // 08:28

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Originally Posted by Gill Halendt

This.

Shing Jea Monastery is the home of "cool kids", what did you expect?

my thought exactly. also the internet will make you stupid.

cataphract · Apr 23, 2009, 08:38 AM // 08:38

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Originally Posted by Chocobo1

You'd never even know if you experienced this kind of bias if you have all female characters. GW population is desperate tbh.

I wouldn't care even if I did. I'd just shrug it off like everything else and continue with my business.

Chocobo1 · Apr 23, 2009, 08:43 AM // 08:43

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Originally Posted by Lux Aeterna

Most of the classes esp. with female characters are easy mode for customization.

Male warrior isn't like female ele, you can't just use blue dyed istani... it's gotta be endgame items from multiple campaigns, dyed black / white / red etcetera, or else you're not only bad but obviously bad.

Basically if you put in absolutely no effort, you'll come out with a decent looking female character and a bad looking male character.

Also: I used to play a chick, and it's interesting because people definitely relate to you differently. It was nice at the time, but now that I play a sexy brightly colored male character I'd never ever go back.

+ side of playing a chick at one time is now I can usually tell someone's real gender.

Absolutely not. Customize your character better, spend 100k on armor dye it red, then say something clever...

Maybe an overexaduration on my part, but I was just emphasising that being a female (or appearing as a female) in this game gets you quite far on it's own. And my characters are all very amazing to look at :3

KrisNaga · Apr 23, 2009, 08:51 AM // 08:51

I have played all professions apart from ritualist and I have put a lot of time into each profession so I know how each one plays and when all is said and done there's no such thing as a bad profession, there's just bad players.
I know that a lot of people look down on sins and that's because bad sins don't take skills that block attacks which is essential in tanking and staying alive.
However people who look down on certain professions are themselves noobs because it's unlikely they have played as that profession so they have no say in the matter.

As a player of over 3 years I tend to play the game on my own with heroes and avoid party's whenever I can because as an adult I have learned that over half the people on this game are immature kids who think there gods who can say and do whatever they want and get away with it so I avoid all talk in this game.
Also on a different note, have you ever seen that player who is always asking for a GF?
he has been doing for like 2 years now.

Lux Aeterna · Apr 23, 2009, 08:54 AM // 08:54

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Originally Posted by Chocobo1

Maybe an exaggeration on my part, but I was just emphasising that being a female (or appearing as a female) in this game gets you quite far on it's own. And my characters are all very amazing to look at :3

Honestly, I've always been farther playing male characters. Being large and assertive is better / easier with male characters, which fits my role in GW...

Playing female has always been more of a response to not much going on, no groups to lead, no big active communities etc.

Although in the game where I played female, I hacked my armor so it had parts from the elvin campaign heroine, then hung out with real chicks. But it made my guy friends feel kind of weird.

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Originally Posted by KrisNaga

As a player of over 3 years I tend to play the game on my own with heroes and avoid party's whenever I can because as an adult I have learned that over half the people on this game are immature kids who think there gods who can say and do whatever they want and get away with it so I avoid all talk in this game.
Also on a different note, have you ever seen that player who is always asking for a GF? he has been doing for like 2 years now.

Lol. Just have fun with them, remember you're better at the game. I prefer to play with a party of real people because it's better than playing with 7 NPCs, really why play multiplayer if you're not going to interact with anyone?

And yes. I told him to stop playing GW....

Chocobo1 · Apr 23, 2009, 09:07 AM // 09:07

Is this the dude in RA who is always asking for someone to be his online girlfriend? I thought it was a joke but I see him there quite a bit :(

Honestly, I really don't care if a dude rolls a female character, his choice not mine. But when they actively use it to gain advantages it's pretty annoying, especially when people actually go and help them just because they have a female character. The worst is when they continually try making *subtle* (Read: Incredibly Obvious) hints that they are female, for whatever reason they have.

Blargh.

Spiritz · Apr 23, 2009, 11:27 AM // 11:27

I think it all boils down to kids getting online with gw - most teenagers are fine but somehow all the brattish arrogent ones always go warrior and then think their big men etc.
Also these kids are always the ones who
a. try and chat up any female toon
b. when finding out toon is actually a male char they decide to start up and offend that person.
( ps im not saying the op is any of the above ).

Men an women both use toon of the opp. gender but when us men do it - kids cant accept it.Im sure as hell they have played a game on xbox/ps2 etc where your forced to use a female toon and that doesnt bother them.
If your male and want to see how bad women have it from male - make a female toon and sit in an outpost - you dont even have to speak and you will get idiots tryin to chat you up or even worse making lewd comments.
Its a Role Play game for gods sake and there isnt a written rule stating you have to play your gender - if you kids dislike it either -
a. dont play
b. Dont go chatting up a toon or makin lewd comments unless you know them
c. Dont call ppl gay if using female toon - You`re the one whos tryin to chat them up not the other way round - Its you who`s in the wrong so accept it.

I seen quite a few ppl wanting gf`s and usually ppl do tend to tell them to stop for reasons of protection - you never know what type of person it is or how old.
I even think once part of an outpost reported someone as it was upsetting other players and very concerning.

Jecht Scye · Apr 23, 2009, 11:55 AM // 11:55

99% of Warriors don't know how to play the profession well, including me. It's a refreshing turn to see one that can though. That is the source of your profession discrimination.

garethporlest18 · Apr 23, 2009, 12:02 PM // 12:02

I go to Shing Jea and I would have loved you man, because I am also a wammo. Though..no one really says anything against me. I do get hit on, on my girl characters though, but with their names it's not surprising.

glacialphoenix · Apr 23, 2009, 12:05 PM // 12:05

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Most of the classes esp. with female characters are easy mode for customization.

Male warrior isn't like female ele, you can't just use blue dyed istani... it's gotta be endgame items from multiple campaigns, dyed black / white / red etcetera, or else you're not only bad but obviously bad.

The question is, can you customize a character who looks different and good at the same time? Also, I protest, I would never let my female ele sit in blue dyed istani, ick.

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Originally Posted by Lux Aeterna

Honestly, I've always been farther playing male characters. Being large and assertive is better / easier with male characters, which fits my role in GW...

I have to say I've never looked at anyone's character beyond '...hmm, nice armour mix.' I don't think I've ever linked them to assertiveness. You can play a tiny female minimonk and still be assertive.

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Originally Posted by Spiritz

If your male and want to see how bad women have it from male - make a female toon and sit in an outpost - you dont even have to speak and you will get idiots tryin to chat you up or even worse making lewd comments.

Not quite that bad yet, but then again I don't sit in the crowded outposts unless 1. I'm trading 2. It's an event. Usually Local chat's turned off so I don't get a spam headache. But, yes, the chatting me up has happened. Depending on how insulting it is, I may or may not retaliate by biting someone's head off.